33 A.T.
We were awoken tis morning at 7am by a phone call from a friend. We thought at first, he was pulling our leg. Telling us that Eric's story hit the front page of the San Francisco Chronicle. We knew there was going to be an article in the paper. We never thought that it was going to get close to the front page, let alone on the front page.
I am glad the story is getting out, said Eric. Even if there is controversy about executed prisoners. As far as we know the current practice with prisoners is that they do give there consent.
If they take away from society to end up with the fate they have. I see nothing but a good thing as they give back to society on there way out of this world.
For us, if this is where and how we acquired the organ. So be it.
posted by TransplanTraveler @ 8:11 AM
5 Comments:
I see the ethical problems, but hell, it's your life! Kudos to you for fighting as hard as you can for it and for being brave enough to go public about it. Increased awareness can only lead to more donors here in America, which we will all agree is the best solution.I wish you a long and healthy life.
The ethical problems are exaggerated for political reasons. Harry Wu, one of the folks the Chronicle quoted in their article, is infamous as a politically-motivated liar.
About 10 years ago, he was caught intentionally lying with a fuzzy under-cover tape he submitted to.. Dateline, 20/20, one of those news shows... which he claims was of a prisoner organ transplant. Turned out later, after review by medical experts, that it was most likely a vet hospital and the "patient" was most likely an animal.
About 5 years ago, he and some American were involved in a case in New York, in which they claimed to have identified a Chinese doctor explicitly selling "prisoner organs" to American patients. The case was thrown out of court, the judge berated the two of'em + district attorney for the case... and the American is on the run (last seen in Taiwan) for perjury in the case.
China's still a third world country. And there's numerous "ethically" dubious activities at the ground level. But some of these folks lie and exaggerate in order to achieve their political goals. Think about some of the things claimed of Iraq, Iran, and even the United States.
As distasteful as it might sound, I think what probably happened is these prisoners were "bribed" a few thousand dollars in order to consent to the agreement, although organ selling is legally not allowed.
If you're facing execution, and you leave behind a family with a net worth of probably < $100 USD... would you consent to organ donation for a couple thousand US dollars? Of course you would.
I think you meant to say "executed" prisoners, not "excited" prisoners.
The comment about them "taking away from society" and deserving their "fate" is a little skewed, considering that in China you can be executed for expressing criticism of the government, being homosexual, or having a religion. You could have the liver of a 20 year old who was shot for being Christian. Or for standing up in front of a tank in Tiananmen Square.
I'm glad you're alive. I really am, for your sake and the sake of your family. But please, don't hide behind self-righteousness, here.
I grew up in China and know how the Communist evils treat the ordinary Chinese people. During the so-called “Culture Revolution”, someone’s liver was ripping out his body right in front a big crowd including his own family members, just because he was rich and owned some farm land prior to the evils took over the country. Sadly, people rushed in, to grab a piece and ate the fresh meat from the “class enemy”! This was not a just single incident; many similar cases were reported years after. The Communist evils are always stirring up hatred among people and fanning the killings.
I strongly believe this kind of killing is still happening today in China, just because people have different beliefs, or said something against the evils. Or, a poor farmer who lost his farm land to the “booming” economy, and accidentally steps into the traps set by the rich and powerful local Communist heads.
Organ harvesting is the cruel reality in China. I believe 99% of the organs were taken from victims who didn’t even know they’d be killed and their body parts were going for sale, profiting the evil Communist Party leaders.
Evidences have shown that China is secretly operating many concentration camps as the organ farms. Political dissidents, Christians, Falun Gong practitioners, even many poor and helpless migrants become the herd.
IT'S SAD! IT SHOULD BE STOPPED!
My message is not to against you and your husband, but to those who don’t care about the sources of the organs, and don't ponder...
Best wishes to you, your husband and family.
You may have had me until you made the comment that these "prisoners" are getting what they deserve. You're right. A poor person who dares to speak out against the government of China deserves to be killed so that you can buy their body parts, because, as americans, you are so much better than them.
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